GoneSouth
07-08 02:42 PM
Thought I'd offer an alternate view on the AC21 letters. I switched jobs after my I-485 had been pending 180 days, and my attorneys advised me to NOT send in an AC21 letter. They said, "Chances are, you will not get an RFE, and if you do, you can send in the AC21 letter at that time. If you do send in an AC21 letter, you will definitely get an RFE". These attorneys had always given me excellent advice in the past, so I have not submitted an AC21 letter.
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arunkotte
07-19 09:54 AM
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JulyFiler
09-22 12:57 PM
It would get attention and help in educating (legal vs illegal) and would be done in conjunction with other things like:
-sending more flowers
-a huge rally in Silicon Valley
-candlelight vigil at congress
-mass letter mailings from all of us
-human chains
-hunger strike?
-etc
We have to attack simultaneusly (but SMARTLY) from all angles in order to be effective!
>>>>-sending more flowers
please.. enough of flowers..
>>>>-a huge rally in Silicon Valley
Now you have seen what goes and does not go into a rally. This is a complicated task so it has to be planned, as was the DC one.
>>>-candlelight vigil at congress
This will work if high school students do it. not "highly skilled" immigrants.
>>>>-mass letter mailings from all of us
Yeah.. spam them with emails..
>>>-human chains
This involves same complexity as the rally. so its not an easy task.
>>>-hunger strike?
This will be stupidity. ( I am not calling you stupid, but the idea. so no need to jump on me). Eat your food and live healty and happy. Is GC worth going on hunger strikes and suicide attempts? Thats too much of desperation. You are not from Afghanistan or Kenya right..?
>>>-etc
What else?
Oh yeah.. the "drain stoppers" stuff.. thats again stupid. Thats too much literal comparison to brain drain.
-sending more flowers
-a huge rally in Silicon Valley
-candlelight vigil at congress
-mass letter mailings from all of us
-human chains
-hunger strike?
-etc
We have to attack simultaneusly (but SMARTLY) from all angles in order to be effective!
>>>>-sending more flowers
please.. enough of flowers..
>>>>-a huge rally in Silicon Valley
Now you have seen what goes and does not go into a rally. This is a complicated task so it has to be planned, as was the DC one.
>>>-candlelight vigil at congress
This will work if high school students do it. not "highly skilled" immigrants.
>>>>-mass letter mailings from all of us
Yeah.. spam them with emails..
>>>-human chains
This involves same complexity as the rally. so its not an easy task.
>>>-hunger strike?
This will be stupidity. ( I am not calling you stupid, but the idea. so no need to jump on me). Eat your food and live healty and happy. Is GC worth going on hunger strikes and suicide attempts? Thats too much of desperation. You are not from Afghanistan or Kenya right..?
>>>-etc
What else?
Oh yeah.. the "drain stoppers" stuff.. thats again stupid. Thats too much literal comparison to brain drain.
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sayantan76
07-02 09:38 AM
last time i posted this idea everyone ridiculed.
Well we desis can only follow the lead of firingis.. so firingis say that who the f*** asked you to come here in the first place and we understand their logic and tell ourselves who the f*** asked us to be here in the first place .. so we are to blame ourselves for everything and take the crap anyway..
But that is not the point.
The point is that me and my company and you and your organisation have paid a service fee with a reasonable expectation of service. reasonable expectation of service is subject to interpretetion based on common sense and no f**king common sense says that waiting 10 years for GC is reasonable .. unless your common sense has been replaced by self disrepecting logic ....
i am not a lawyer but i think that when you pay a processing fees to apply for a privilege (drivers license, business permit, visa, green card etc) from the appropriate statutory authority (DMV, USCIS, Dept of Commerce etc) - the payment of fees does not make you the customer of the statutory authority - so to the extent that USCIS has not broken a law to discriminate against a particular set of applicants (class) - a class action may indeed have no merit.
However, if it can be proved that there has indeed been gross negligence or that USCIS has not followed its own established procedures, made commitments but not honored those, lied or broken the law of the land - then there may be a case.......
another angle is that if the law itself violates the constitution - there is a separate procedure to appeal against such a law (like may suits going on in state courts on laws related to gay rights) - however USCIS would not be party to such a lawsuit since USCIS does not make laws. one would need not only a good immigration lawyer but also a constitutional expert for a venture like this.
Well we desis can only follow the lead of firingis.. so firingis say that who the f*** asked you to come here in the first place and we understand their logic and tell ourselves who the f*** asked us to be here in the first place .. so we are to blame ourselves for everything and take the crap anyway..
But that is not the point.
The point is that me and my company and you and your organisation have paid a service fee with a reasonable expectation of service. reasonable expectation of service is subject to interpretetion based on common sense and no f**king common sense says that waiting 10 years for GC is reasonable .. unless your common sense has been replaced by self disrepecting logic ....
i am not a lawyer but i think that when you pay a processing fees to apply for a privilege (drivers license, business permit, visa, green card etc) from the appropriate statutory authority (DMV, USCIS, Dept of Commerce etc) - the payment of fees does not make you the customer of the statutory authority - so to the extent that USCIS has not broken a law to discriminate against a particular set of applicants (class) - a class action may indeed have no merit.
However, if it can be proved that there has indeed been gross negligence or that USCIS has not followed its own established procedures, made commitments but not honored those, lied or broken the law of the land - then there may be a case.......
another angle is that if the law itself violates the constitution - there is a separate procedure to appeal against such a law (like may suits going on in state courts on laws related to gay rights) - however USCIS would not be party to such a lawsuit since USCIS does not make laws. one would need not only a good immigration lawyer but also a constitutional expert for a venture like this.
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01-13 04:08 PM
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The7zen
04-16 01:11 PM
Bump!!!!
Just contributed $25 for this month.....
Just contributed $25 for this month.....
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aadimanav
07-17 12:44 PM
That's great. Let everyone know if you get some reply.
I sent to 3 members from Fl and 3 members from VA. I was residing in Fl and I had to move to VA due to job relocation.
Hope this helps to get some help.
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I sent to 3 members from Fl and 3 members from VA. I was residing in Fl and I had to move to VA due to job relocation.
Hope this helps to get some help.
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nrk
08-11 11:08 AM
They are not the same.
Service Request you will open by calling 1 800 number and talk to an agent over the telephone.
Info pass appointment is you go to local USCIS office where you talk to one of the officers in person.
the below is the website to take info pass appointment
InfoPass.. (http://infopass.uscis.gov/)
Guys, I am not sure how to open a SR (Is SR and Info pass means same). Could any of you guys shed some light for me
Thanks guys
Service Request you will open by calling 1 800 number and talk to an agent over the telephone.
Info pass appointment is you go to local USCIS office where you talk to one of the officers in person.
the below is the website to take info pass appointment
InfoPass.. (http://infopass.uscis.gov/)
Guys, I am not sure how to open a SR (Is SR and Info pass means same). Could any of you guys shed some light for me
Thanks guys
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nviren
03-01 07:11 PM
If I had my green card today, I would surely be making at least 15K more in my salary per annum repeat per annum.
If not all, many of you are in the similar situation.
My $200 contribution is just 1.33% of that lost opportunity per annum. If I take into consideration the 4 years of wait, it comes to 0.33%.
Almost anybody who is in US for 5 years on H1B can buy an nice little home. (Bay area is bit more cruel).
Last year I could have bought a home for say 500K. It would have surely appreciated by 50K. But because of the uncertainty of GC, I can not. That's a loss of opportunity of 50K.
My $200 contribution is just 0.4% of that another lost opportunity.
Now you know why I support this effort.
Most of you and your friends are in a situation similar as mine.
I urge you to become aware, make them aware and support this effort, which has a potential to minimize those lost financial opportunities, with your wallet.
Thanks,
nviren
If not all, many of you are in the similar situation.
My $200 contribution is just 1.33% of that lost opportunity per annum. If I take into consideration the 4 years of wait, it comes to 0.33%.
Almost anybody who is in US for 5 years on H1B can buy an nice little home. (Bay area is bit more cruel).
Last year I could have bought a home for say 500K. It would have surely appreciated by 50K. But because of the uncertainty of GC, I can not. That's a loss of opportunity of 50K.
My $200 contribution is just 0.4% of that another lost opportunity.
Now you know why I support this effort.
Most of you and your friends are in a situation similar as mine.
I urge you to become aware, make them aware and support this effort, which has a potential to minimize those lost financial opportunities, with your wallet.
Thanks,
nviren
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cjain
12-14 01:08 PM
Folks I had an infopass this morning for EAD pending more than 90 days. The officer basically told me cannot issue EAD but will contact NSC to check status and gave a customer information receipt saying "Our records indicate that your I765 is pending. I will contact NSC for further review of your application"
I was very disappointed by this. Is there anything else I can do to get interim EAD? I still don't see a LUD on my case.
I was very disappointed by this. Is there anything else I can do to get interim EAD? I still don't see a LUD on my case.
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zen
04-06 04:37 PM
what you say above is true. but the fact is that we are what we are ..and we are at cross roads ..and that is where we are.
the main question is how do we increase membership .. the answer to that has to be in meaningful and visible campaigns.
forcing people to pay money when their jobs are at risk will not increase membership.
the main question is how do we increase membership .. the answer to that has to be in meaningful and visible campaigns.
forcing people to pay money when their jobs are at risk will not increase membership.
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reddymjm
01-26 05:06 PM
I was not optimistic about EB3 situation a while ago but the situation has changed, i think we are fast approaching the end of this dark tunnel and we will soon see light :)
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m306m
04-14 01:39 PM
Just signed up for contribution of $25 for 1 month.
Subscription Payment Sent (Unique Transaction ID #8PS980636F600500Y)
In reference to: S-64827895L7978974S
Will contribute more later
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In reference to: S-64827895L7978974S
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javaconsultant
02-04 12:07 AM
I signed up for recurring contribution for IV for 20/month.
Guys and Gals--------pls contribute to IV as much you can.Even little amount would help it....its our only hope to get out this GC mess.
Guys and Gals--------pls contribute to IV as much you can.Even little amount would help it....its our only hope to get out this GC mess.
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USINPAC
07-13 02:57 PM
July 13, 2007
Aman Kapoor
Co-Founder
Immigration Voice
P.O. Box 114
Dayton, NJ 08810
aman@immigrationvoice.org
Dear Aman,
This letter is regarding the article "Say it with flowers: Gandhigiri for US green cards" published by the Indian Express on Wednesday, July 11, 2007. The article erroneously indicated that Robinder Sachdev from USINPAC was a coordinator of the flower protest initiative. As you obviously know, this is incorrect. I assure you that Mr. Sachdev did not make this false representation. We are reaching out to the reporter requesting they publish a clarification. USINPAC is aware that the flower plan was originated and organized by Immigration Voice and has responded to all enquiries accordingly. Please feel free to call (202-276-7946) or email me on this, if you have any further questions.
Warm Regards,
Surabhi Garg
Director, Member Initiatives
202-276-7946 (Cell#)
sgarg@usinpac.com
www.usinpac.com
Aman Kapoor
Co-Founder
Immigration Voice
P.O. Box 114
Dayton, NJ 08810
aman@immigrationvoice.org
Dear Aman,
This letter is regarding the article "Say it with flowers: Gandhigiri for US green cards" published by the Indian Express on Wednesday, July 11, 2007. The article erroneously indicated that Robinder Sachdev from USINPAC was a coordinator of the flower protest initiative. As you obviously know, this is incorrect. I assure you that Mr. Sachdev did not make this false representation. We are reaching out to the reporter requesting they publish a clarification. USINPAC is aware that the flower plan was originated and organized by Immigration Voice and has responded to all enquiries accordingly. Please feel free to call (202-276-7946) or email me on this, if you have any further questions.
Warm Regards,
Surabhi Garg
Director, Member Initiatives
202-276-7946 (Cell#)
sgarg@usinpac.com
www.usinpac.com
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thomachan72
05-15 08:58 AM
Lets learn from the chinese! dont you think they smell of fish and frogs, they cant speak proper english, they do not dress properly etc etc but they get their job done and are slow and steady. Part of the reason they are not easily insulted as we are is, they are very very humble people. They have learnt to respect others. Now look at we Indians. I am from South India. Do you think if I travel to the North I will be respected, let alone be considered a normal human being?? We tend to view everything that way. Go to any university and you will see a mumbai group, a chenai group, bihar group etc etc. First let us speak of how WE INDIANS treat other Indians. This is just like the Middle east right? When they have a common enemy they stand as one, otherwise they always fight among themselves. As somebody previously pointed out.
1) Respect yourself and others (americans). They are not used to your spicy smell, oil smell, untidiness etc. Instead of blaming them for not cooking, it would be better for us to take a few precautions: hand your dress/coats etc in a separate room with door and keep it always locked, preferably put a perfume paper or something on the floor in that room.
2) Learn to use chewing gum before group meetings.
3) Work to develop a cheerful attitude. Dont expect to be treated as a child is treated by a parent (always cared for type of thing). Smile and be happy.
4) Please dress decently and tell your friends to do so also. Many people dont know this basic requirement in the US.
5) Finally learn to smile at a fellow Indian, no matter which part of the country he/she is from.
One thing I have noticed is most of the time (not always though), its the people who dont do their work properly/sincerely, who end up with these kind of problems. And remember this will happen to any person whether its an Alien / American. As an alien we will naturally be attacked more if we are not GOOD enough. Isn't it assumed that H1B is to bring in the best of the rest of the world into this country?? So lets try to be that best and do our best.
1) Respect yourself and others (americans). They are not used to your spicy smell, oil smell, untidiness etc. Instead of blaming them for not cooking, it would be better for us to take a few precautions: hand your dress/coats etc in a separate room with door and keep it always locked, preferably put a perfume paper or something on the floor in that room.
2) Learn to use chewing gum before group meetings.
3) Work to develop a cheerful attitude. Dont expect to be treated as a child is treated by a parent (always cared for type of thing). Smile and be happy.
4) Please dress decently and tell your friends to do so also. Many people dont know this basic requirement in the US.
5) Finally learn to smile at a fellow Indian, no matter which part of the country he/she is from.
One thing I have noticed is most of the time (not always though), its the people who dont do their work properly/sincerely, who end up with these kind of problems. And remember this will happen to any person whether its an Alien / American. As an alien we will naturally be attacked more if we are not GOOD enough. Isn't it assumed that H1B is to bring in the best of the rest of the world into this country?? So lets try to be that best and do our best.
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nozerd
07-22 12:39 PM
Here is what people forget in this debate. They point out disadvantages of Canada over US. Fewer jobs, High taxes, extreme cold etc.
No doubt US is better than Canada for most people. That is why US is our first choice and Canada is backup - not the other way around.
We arent talking about people who have a choice here. If you had choice between US GC and Canadian PR we would always choose US blind folded.
But we are people without much choice. Yes we have choice to go back to India, and it may be a good choice for thoise who have come recently and have work exp in India. But some of us have spent 10 plus yrs in the US, have US degrees, never worked in India etc. For us it is extremely difficult to move back to India when we dont have a days work exp there. Ofcourse if you are SC/ST or OBC o reserved category your kids have great future there but not for other "normal" people.
So what other choice do we have. Well English speaking countries you can migrate to and who are taking people as PR's are:
1) CANADA
2) AUSTRALIA
3) NEW ZEALAND
4) SINGAPORE
5) UK.
UK is very difficult to go to as PR. The points required are extremely high. Unless you have MBA from top 10 school or make over 100 K it is difficult.
Singapore is a good option also, but cost of living is high and you can only apply for PR after working in Singapore for 3 plus yrs. Also Singapore is not a democracy.
New Zealand economy is 10 times worse than Canada
That leaves Australia and Canada. Well Canada is closer to US, but Australia has better weather. Canada is less racist but Australia has cricket :).
So bottom line is conduct this discussion as if US is not the option. If we could stay here with PR for sure we wouldnt even be having this discussion.
No doubt US is better than Canada for most people. That is why US is our first choice and Canada is backup - not the other way around.
We arent talking about people who have a choice here. If you had choice between US GC and Canadian PR we would always choose US blind folded.
But we are people without much choice. Yes we have choice to go back to India, and it may be a good choice for thoise who have come recently and have work exp in India. But some of us have spent 10 plus yrs in the US, have US degrees, never worked in India etc. For us it is extremely difficult to move back to India when we dont have a days work exp there. Ofcourse if you are SC/ST or OBC o reserved category your kids have great future there but not for other "normal" people.
So what other choice do we have. Well English speaking countries you can migrate to and who are taking people as PR's are:
1) CANADA
2) AUSTRALIA
3) NEW ZEALAND
4) SINGAPORE
5) UK.
UK is very difficult to go to as PR. The points required are extremely high. Unless you have MBA from top 10 school or make over 100 K it is difficult.
Singapore is a good option also, but cost of living is high and you can only apply for PR after working in Singapore for 3 plus yrs. Also Singapore is not a democracy.
New Zealand economy is 10 times worse than Canada
That leaves Australia and Canada. Well Canada is closer to US, but Australia has better weather. Canada is less racist but Australia has cricket :).
So bottom line is conduct this discussion as if US is not the option. If we could stay here with PR for sure we wouldnt even be having this discussion.
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kumarc123
06-12 01:54 PM
kumarc123 I merged your thread + created a redirect with this one because of duplicate post and same discussion on your post in 2 places.
Will respond to your other post soon. Pls look at us as people like you rather than venting against us for everything.
Papuu
I apologize if I said something wrong,but I strong believe I didn't. We need the OLD IV to do something big and practical, that's the only way, you will attract new members. I respect, all you have done, but I guess its time for you and other core members to plan something real and in open. We don't want to be informed about close door talks, we want action.
Will respond to your other post soon. Pls look at us as people like you rather than venting against us for everything.
Papuu
I apologize if I said something wrong,but I strong believe I didn't. We need the OLD IV to do something big and practical, that's the only way, you will attract new members. I respect, all you have done, but I guess its time for you and other core members to plan something real and in open. We don't want to be informed about close door talks, we want action.
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gc_peshwa
03-09 12:11 PM
Fence sitters and casual thread browsers on IV
WAKE UP NOW AT LEAST!!
There is no messiah for EB immigrants....we have to be our own 'messiah's...advocacy needs participation and money, no freedom is won without battles!!!
WAKE UP NOW AT LEAST!!
There is no messiah for EB immigrants....we have to be our own 'messiah's...advocacy needs participation and money, no freedom is won without battles!!!
getgreensoon1
05-10 08:56 AM
Try to respect others and feel sorry about their situation.
I feel sorry for the people who live in slums of dharavi but not for people who should not have been in the US in the first place (based on their education) and are now finding ways to get ahead of the legit EB2 candidates by buying masters degrees.
I feel sorry for the people who live in slums of dharavi but not for people who should not have been in the US in the first place (based on their education) and are now finding ways to get ahead of the legit EB2 candidates by buying masters degrees.
JunRN
08-23 05:51 PM
The back-ground checks are sub-sets of "pre-approval process". I don't know if the word "pre-approval process" is official terminology used by USCIS. What I am usually reading is "adjudication process".